Can anyone explain the Villiers engine number system, and what model Victas the number sequences started and finished on? I'm trying to work out what model Victa mowers the following engine numbers came off: Cylinder # 3812 B6698 Crank case # 402X 45 169 Cylinder # G3095? Crank case # 407X 29 055 Crank# 764 55 65 Crank # 816 21 354 The top one has a brass pulley, the second a alloy pulley painted red.
Can anyone explain the Villiers engine number system, and what. You what mower they came off,only the serial number will determine this.
As usual, any help much appreciated! Membership information Re: Villiers Engine Numbers [] 12/07/13 03:50 PM 12/07/13 03:50 PM. I can possibly ID the engine with Images.Youve no idea what a huge can of worms your trying to open with Villiers.The coding is limitless and confusing and thats just for the engines themselves.trying to ID parts is even harder. I have engine codes for most aus 98cc midgets and 70cc,never got in to much else.I can tell you its Australian(ballarat made)Engine and by the parts its not a Midget,which most Aus rotarys used,so im presuming its off a reel mower. The number is familiar so ill do some peeking for you. Show me images if you like and the date code on top of the flywheel.Red could indicate Austral or pace,but that doesnt count for much.And they both ran 98 and 70 cc Midgets. Sorry I dont have much more for you,hopefully other members can shed some more light Victa only used Villiers on 3 models the billycart,Mk1 Fan and MK2 Fan.The Billy cart and at least 30% of Mk1 Fans were Still english sourced engines and used their coding,which is very erratic and very little is known of their sequence,if at all.
Midway through the Mk1 fan the 132x coded Aus engines were used and ran in sequence until the last Mk 2 Fan. A run amount? Im not sure but im thinking around 4,500 only since this is the highest number ive seen on a mk 2 fan. Again other may have more info,but to my knowledge there is very little. Pace,Austral Villiers, Villager,Vampire and a few others also ran Villiers midgets until the 7f manual and auto were released. Re: Villiers Engine Numbers [] 13/07/13 02:32 AM 13/07/13 02:32 AM. The first engine spec code 402x indicates a mark 2 midget engine and the b6698 is the part number for the cylinder.
The 407x spec is for a 5g engine and was supplied to pace.the spec codes tell the company supplied to and any special components for them.402x = Villiers with d119au inlet pipe,m2530d starter pulley,s12 carby and a 3'1' cable. 407x = pace, with s10 carby,d169au inlet pipe and d180au silencer.the parts book indicates the cylinder number as c9095 not g3095,so maybe this was a special order.regards,john Re: Villiers Engine Numbers [] 13/07/13 07:03 AM 13/07/13 07:03 AM. Very Impressive Info John.
So they are both Pace.Cool. And I should have known better not to recognise the B6698,since thats pretty much all I collect lols. Ok So have one 5G c9095 And its a 70cc is this accurate? Always thought mine was of an Austral,but that is even better,since ive a Pace I can now use it on. The really sad thing is I have( had) a list covering all the villiers engine fitments for Aust made mowers,Not a parts list just engine codes,but I cannot find it,and its probably the most important piece of ino I have regarding Villiers engines,all I have left is parts lists for Mk2 and 3 midgets sighs*.I have a question.You say MK2 Midget is for the first and fitted to pace. Since there are no known records covering pace models prior to 56 (yes im sure someone has some,but to date ive not heard anyone who has them,Maybee your the MAN!)Id be really interested if this is an engine off the first Pace rotary,since all recorded forms ran the Hurricane mk3 98cc midget and 70cc.If you wouldnt mind,and if you have the info could you please tell me the date code this engine would have been?
As im really interested in learning more of the first produced Pace mowers,as ive only ever seen one. Anyway Awesome info John! Re: Villiers Engine Numbers [] 13/07/13 08:06 AM 13/07/13 08:06 AM. 
Lols Awesome! Is there anything you dont have your hand in?
Yes the first will look like the fan engine since John has confirmed it to be a Mk2 midget. The other one (Pace)70cc The Noticable thing should be it has longer legs at the rear and long cylindrical muffler.but yeah get em up when you can so I can see what parts I need!!!Lmao.Dont forget to check the date code on the flywheel of the MK2,will be interested to see if it falls around any rotary categories What you gonna do with em anyways? If you get the Mk2 going note the difference in running to a victa,they are so low and subtle,kinda like a hit and miss engine when they idle lols. Re: Villiers Engine Numbers [] 13/07/13 04:11 PM 13/07/13 04:11 PM. The first engine spec code 402x indicates a mark 2 midget engine and the b6698 is the part number for the cylinder.
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Can anyone explain the Villiers engine number system, and what model Victas the number sequences started and finished on? I'm trying to work out what model Victa mowers the following engine numbers came off: Cylinder # 3812 B6698 Crank case # 402X 45 169 Cylinder # G3095? Crank case # 407X 29 055 Crank# 764 55 65 Crank # 816 21 354 The top one has a brass pulley, the second a alloy pulley painted red.
Can anyone explain the Villiers engine number system, and what. You what mower they came off,only the serial number will determine this.
As usual, any help much appreciated! Membership information Re: Villiers Engine Numbers [] 12/07/13 03:50 PM 12/07/13 03:50 PM. I can possibly ID the engine with Images.Youve no idea what a huge can of worms your trying to open with Villiers.The coding is limitless and confusing and thats just for the engines themselves.trying to ID parts is even harder. I have engine codes for most aus 98cc midgets and 70cc,never got in to much else.I can tell you its Australian(ballarat made)Engine and by the parts its not a Midget,which most Aus rotarys used,so im presuming its off a reel mower. The number is familiar so ill do some peeking for you. Show me images if you like and the date code on top of the flywheel.Red could indicate Austral or pace,but that doesnt count for much.And they both ran 98 and 70 cc Midgets. Sorry I dont have much more for you,hopefully other members can shed some more light Victa only used Villiers on 3 models the billycart,Mk1 Fan and MK2 Fan.The Billy cart and at least 30% of Mk1 Fans were Still english sourced engines and used their coding,which is very erratic and very little is known of their sequence,if at all.
Midway through the Mk1 fan the 132x coded Aus engines were used and ran in sequence until the last Mk 2 Fan. A run amount? Im not sure but im thinking around 4,500 only since this is the highest number ive seen on a mk 2 fan. Again other may have more info,but to my knowledge there is very little. Pace,Austral Villiers, Villager,Vampire and a few others also ran Villiers midgets until the 7f manual and auto were released. Re: Villiers Engine Numbers [] 13/07/13 02:32 AM 13/07/13 02:32 AM. The first engine spec code 402x indicates a mark 2 midget engine and the b6698 is the part number for the cylinder.
The 407x spec is for a 5g engine and was supplied to pace.the spec codes tell the company supplied to and any special components for them.402x = Villiers with d119au inlet pipe,m2530d starter pulley,s12 carby and a 3'1' cable. 407x = pace, with s10 carby,d169au inlet pipe and d180au silencer.the parts book indicates the cylinder number as c9095 not g3095,so maybe this was a special order.regards,john Re: Villiers Engine Numbers [] 13/07/13 07:03 AM 13/07/13 07:03 AM. Very Impressive Info John.
So they are both Pace.Cool. And I should have known better not to recognise the B6698,since thats pretty much all I collect lols. Ok So have one 5G c9095 And its a 70cc is this accurate? Always thought mine was of an Austral,but that is even better,since ive a Pace I can now use it on. The really sad thing is I have( had) a list covering all the villiers engine fitments for Aust made mowers,Not a parts list just engine codes,but I cannot find it,and its probably the most important piece of ino I have regarding Villiers engines,all I have left is parts lists for Mk2 and 3 midgets sighs*.I have a question.You say MK2 Midget is for the first and fitted to pace. Since there are no known records covering pace models prior to 56 (yes im sure someone has some,but to date ive not heard anyone who has them,Maybee your the MAN!)Id be really interested if this is an engine off the first Pace rotary,since all recorded forms ran the Hurricane mk3 98cc midget and 70cc.If you wouldnt mind,and if you have the info could you please tell me the date code this engine would have been?
As im really interested in learning more of the first produced Pace mowers,as ive only ever seen one. Anyway Awesome info John! Re: Villiers Engine Numbers [] 13/07/13 08:06 AM 13/07/13 08:06 AM. Lols Awesome! Is there anything you dont have your hand in?
Yes the first will look like the fan engine since John has confirmed it to be a Mk2 midget. The other one (Pace)70cc The Noticable thing should be it has longer legs at the rear and long cylindrical muffler.but yeah get em up when you can so I can see what parts I need!!!Lmao.Dont forget to check the date code on the flywheel of the MK2,will be interested to see if it falls around any rotary categories What you gonna do with em anyways? If you get the Mk2 going note the difference in running to a victa,they are so low and subtle,kinda like a hit and miss engine when they idle lols. Re: Villiers Engine Numbers [] 13/07/13 04:11 PM 13/07/13 04:11 PM. The first engine spec code 402x indicates a mark 2 midget engine and the b6698 is the part number for the cylinder.